Airport CEO Alpha 32 released (The Turnaround Update)

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You may wait for the Deblog. It sounds that we will get updated informations then.

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Got more than enough depots and parking lots, most of them free (because cars are busy).
Actually the game worked well for long time and suddenly the problem occurs. Usually after a few (real time) minutes the ramp agents start loading the trucks again. Before they just stand at the bay, baggage truck is waiting but nothing done.
Seems almosts like a pathfinding issue (especially since it’s much better after reload with only short waiting time), but I don’t know how pathfinding participates in the work at baggage bays.

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Love the template function. Could it be possible to also copy the queue lines? If I select them they are not included but I hate making them so template would be very helpful here

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@dutchblond, I agree. A definite need.

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From my experience, when I select the queue lines to copy and paste along with the check in desk, it copies. I’m not sure if you can copy a line by itself.

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Got the next game breaking bug in the new version, suddenly workers stop all construction because no more material is being delivered (ACEO-16487). :frowning:
The current version really breaks the game for me. Still not sure whether it’s coincidence to get all the problems now or really connected to the -3 version.
This time even reloading doesn’t help which is very bad for me but maybe at least helpful for finding the cause. For now I have to stop playing until a fix is there because the construction interruption makes my main terminal not working anymore (road connection destroyed and the new one not being built).

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You can use the F10 menu to turn off the requirements for material and enable instant building

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Thanks for the info, that might solve the problem, I’ll try. Although it feels a bit like cheating, but better than being stuck with the game. :wink:

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Just don’t want you to give up on a save you have been working on

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Thank you once again, after “cheating” and switching it off again, now for new construction I get material delivery again.
Just ran into the next problem however… dozens of baggage trucks waiting at the bay and none of them entering. The unloading side still works fine, only the loading side stopped working. Already tried closing and reopening it, no change.
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Something with my save might be really broken. Obviously others don’t experience the problem, otherwise there would be lots of reports already.

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Just a summary of what else happened until now:

  • The issue with the baggage bay in the previous post couldn’t be solved. Even after selling the first truck (the only one accessible through a click) and after removing the whole bay, the trucks there are still stuck.
  • All my medium stands got stuck with no cabin cleaning done anymore. I had to dismiss every flight manually, afterwards it worked well again.
  • I currently still have an issue with pushback. If boarding is completed but not every passenger made it, 9 out of 10 planes won’t get pushback started. Flight monitor stays with “Boarding closed”, stand details show “boarding not started” (but the correct number of already boarded passengers). At least once it also happened when all passengers were boarded. To solve this, I have to dismiss each affected flight manually.
  • Very new issue: Some flights just don’t get baggage trucks. They’re stuck with everything done except baggage unloading and loading, I got lots of available trucks in parking lots and depots but none will come to the flight. Only happens for some flights which I then have to dismiss without baggage service.

Other minor issues probably not related to my save but might be real bugs:

  • Sometimes during cabin cleaning when a truck is full and has to leave, the percentage in flight monitor will temporarily go back to 0%. For example, truck 1 goes up to 65% but then has to leave, flight monitor will show 0% and once truck 2 continues it will go on with 66%. Just happens sometimes, not always.
  • Another bug with cabin cleaning: Trucks leave the aircraft before they’re finished. The most extreme was a truck leaving at 75% and while driving along the roads still continuing the cleaning (percentage still got up to 100%, money was shown above the truck).
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I will check this issues reported, but the issues you’ve mentioned @Gerwanese may be caused by the serialized state of the airport. I.e, not all bug fixes will solve behavior caused by a bug but instead prevent it from happening again. This is the most apparent drawback from playing the game on the experimental branch, as we simply do not have the resources (or in most cases, not cause enough) to write code that simply just fixes behavior caused by the bug. We do this in some exceptions, as when a certain bug has affected a very large group of players, but for most single specific case where a certain agent gets displaced or behaves in a certain way this is not the case.

That said, I will of course look into it (as always).

Individual queues, i.e. without a parent desk, cannot be copied and pasted since we do not offer queue construction without a parent desk. However, if you copy a desk and include the parts of the queue you want copied it will work. There are various safety checks included in the pasting code that will keep the queue as intact as possible, i.e. if you paste a queue over an existing object the paste will only spawn queue points as far as the queue will remain intact, starting from the first queue point (closest to the desk).

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Thanks, @Olof. I didn’t report all the recent problems anymore because I think it’s too much about my broken save and there wouldn’t be much worth in sending in the huge save again and again.
Some things just get better after reloading, others don’t.

I’m not sure if it has any worth for you (since my save is pretty bad in general) but yesterday I had some more problems, while the “no pushback if not all passengers on board” issue is still there even after reloading:

  • suddenly ramp agents stopped doing the service round; still standing there but not doing anything or just doing a few percent and then stopping (cabin cleaning / catering / refueling are done)
  • boarding didn’t work anymore; with the large boarding desks, two people were stuck (one on each side) right besides the boarding desk and not getting any further although passenger service agents being there

Both problems happened again even after dismissing every aircraft at the airport (an option “dismiss all aircraft” in the F10 menu would have been great :wink: ). Reset all people nodes didn’t help either.
Tonight I’ll try whether the problem is still there after reloading. If you’re interested in it, I could send the save (or just create a new bug report with it), but I’d understand if you just declare the save “broken”.

Besides, I lost about 3 hours of playing time because saving didn’t work. I got the “Saving…” message on the top right which disappeared after a while. Only after closing the game I found nothing was saved. Maybe a message / dialog about the result of saving would be good.

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Continuing the discussion from Airport CEO Alpha 32 Released [Experimental]:

I have the same problems at my airport… I just built it with Alpha 32… and it does the same thing… baggage delays… aircraft cleaning, and i have plenty of trucks and staff.

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I can’t do anything without a bug report ID, so if you submit one and provide it here I can check it out!

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any of my airports, wether it’s a saved game or a newly started airport, has night flights enabled when it’s not procured. I’m not sure if a bug report would provide anything extra on that.

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Good evening! Another update has made its way out to you… we’ve found a few serious vehicle parking issues which is most likely which sent vehicles all over the map when interacting with stands.

We’re heading to Gamescom tomorrow and will be writing the dev blog during the trip! :slight_smile:

    Release notes - Airport CEO - Version Alpha 32.9-4

Improvement

  • [ACEO-4219] - Instantly load game when double clicking a save container
  • [ACEO-16526] - Exit game save prompt menu now more aligned with industry standards

Bug

  • [ACEO-16465] - Job task panel statistic containers do not update "Fetching data..." text when loading panel for first time with time paused
  • [ACEO-16484] - Fuel truck with middle placed warning light is off center
  • [ACEO-16485] - Conveyor belts can in rare instances get assigned wrong variation index causing escalators to be spawned as straight pieces and consequent null reference issues
  • [ACEO-16498] - NullReference exception thrown when constructing de-icing pads with construction simulation disabled
  • [ACEO-16506] - Poor occupation check for parking objects can cause vehicles to exit a certain parking object to stall
  • [ACEO-16508] - Incorrect aircraft presence check for service vehicles when interacting with stands can throw null reference exceptions and cause stalling behavior
  • [ACEO-16520] - Aircraft with two possible departure runways but only one properly reachable via one-way taxiways cannot perform multiple attempts

New Feature

  • [ACEO-3333] - Quick-saving now possible by pressing F5
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@Olof reg. bug ACEO-16487 you want me to resubmit the save, but I can’t. Too large to send it via ingame bug report. Anyways it’s the latest version, but after few times reloading it worked again so I guess you don’t need to investigate any further. My current save doesn’t show the issue anymore.

To my surprise, today while running the game for more than 4 hours everything worked smoothly (except for staff shortage because of the well known bad work assignment, but that’s nothing serious and a common problem).
Only a minor display issue with notifications (ACEO-16540). Newest save included there, had to switch to WinRAR now to get it below 20MB (unpacked size 197MB). :wink:

Enjoy Gamescom!

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… and with that said, Alpha 32 just went live on the default branch! Now it’s time for some Gamescom, but we’ll be here all day to watch the backlog! :slight_smile:

    Release notes - Airport CEO - Version Alpha 32.10-0

Improvement

  • [ACEO-4219] - Instantly load game when double clicking a save container
  • [ACEO-13106] - Added fees sliders for catering meal and de-icing fluid sales
  • [ACEO-14636] - Airport staff renamed 'passenger service agent' in accordance with industry terminology
  • [ACEO-14637] - Security staff renamed 'security officer' in accordance with industry terminology
  • [ACEO-14856] - Improved error handling for person activity update loops to avoid stalling persons
  • [ACEO-14874] - Service truck renamed 'baggage truck' in accordance with industry terminology
  • [ACEO-14939] - Added conveyor belt escalator direction guide icons
  • [ACEO-14942] - Added temperature modifier value based on airport location to avoid de-icing and cold weather coniditions in countries with traditionally warm climate
  • [ACEO-15202] - Improved service road texture with rounded corners
  • [ACEO-15234] - Road tunnels now automatically set road type based on connectors
  • [ACEO-15238] - Implemented separate path finding system for contractors to avoid stalling other agents during path finding
  • [ACEO-15431] - Improved baggage performance rendering
  • [ACEO-16377] - Aircraft can now taxi through de-icing stands (when not in use) allowing for taxiways designs without de-icing stand bypasses
  • [ACEO-16526] - Exit game save prompt menu now more aligned with industry standards

Bug

  • [ACEO-7605] - Paying off loans causes remaining interest to get charged
  • [ACEO-11373] - Flight planner sometimes shift a planned flight five minutes after confirming it
  • [ACEO-11517] - Deleting wall causes notable performance spike
  • [ACEO-12209] - Time format is not set correct on tutorial phone
  • [ACEO-12309] - Flight planner clock is layered behind scrollbar
  • [ACEO-12422] - Imperial passenger height and weight units missing for passenger panel
  • [ACEO-12734] - Missing key value for catering job task description
  • [ACEO-14128] - Dashboard and main interaction bag counters do not match
  • [ACEO-14323] - Vehicle procurment text size too big
  • [ACEO-14397] - Older saves (saved before Alpha 30) can crash on load due to incorrect serialized item type
  • [ACEO-14410] - Beechcraft 1900D does not activate extra lights on runway at night
  • [ACEO-14419] - Aircraft cabin cleaning turnaround procedure does not take deboarding and boarding status into account
  • [ACEO-14456] - Contractors can in rare cases get teleported to delivery sites without reason
  • [ACEO-14480] - De-icing vapor visible on lower floors
  • [ACEO-14483] - If an aircraft arrives to a de-icing pad before a de-icing truck, the next occupying de-icing truck will never invoke the de-icing behavior causing a deadlock
  • [ACEO-14508] - Improved tutorial step completion background color to better accommodate reading experience
  • [ACEO-14528] - Waste depot unloading speed too low
  • [ACEO-14531] - Waiting positions for service vehicles at medium stands overlap
  • [ACEO-14536] - Aircraft information panel missing requested services icons
  • [ACEO-14538] - Aircraft cabin cleaning truck position for Q400 misaligned
  • [ACEO-14539] - Aircraft sound levels inconsistent when switching from startup to idle
  • [ACEO-14541] - Missing localization key value for de-icing fluid amount
  • [ACEO-14543] - Switching floor causes vehicle animations to reset
  • [ACEO-14547] - Incorrect requirement for de-icing truck renders it non-purchasable if waste depot not built
  • [ACEO-14552] - Garbage trucks have infinite waste capacity resulting in a seemingly excessive amount of garbage trucks dispatched for waste pickup
  • [ACEO-14559] - Trucks resupplying a certain depot can become stuck in a delivery loop as they do not correctly account for shipment relevancy
  • [ACEO-14577] - Pushback truck tow bar visible on lower ground floors
  • [ACEO-14584] - Flight monitor missing catering and aircraft cabin cleaning
  • [ACEO-14615] - Missing effect toggle handler on de-icing pad causes it to be un-buildable
  • [ACEO-14622] - Security officers can in rare instances become displaced during or after job task completion causing pathfinding errors
  • [ACEO-14635] - Inactive construction text causing notable performance impact even if object is built
  • [ACEO-14661] - Aircraft cabin cleaning truck and belt loader truck overlap on Q400
  • [ACEO-14767] - Catering food supplier cost value rounded to 0 for lower than one dollar values
  • [ACEO-14784] - Parallax effect on road check-point structure
  • [ACEO-14806] - Runway tire marks layered over aircraft on runway
  • [ACEO-14808] - Jetway not colorable from first floor or above
  • [ACEO-14850] - Premature activity evaluation method for when relief items break can cause a NullReferenceException on interaction items and stalled passengers
  • [ACEO-14858] - Missing distance check for random node fetch in vehicle's roaming method can cause extensive detours in large airports
  • [ACEO-14868] - Fuel trucks perform a pirouette before exiting fuel depot
  • [ACEO-14872] - De-icing fluid depot panel incorrectly displays percentage symbol instead of fluid amount symbol
  • [ACEO-14898] - Assigned fuel truck at closed stand can in certain instances get stuck in a loop
  • [ACEO-14928] - Waste reduction calculation method for waste depots can cause garbage trucks to get stuck
  • [ACEO-14930] - Contractors can in certain cases stuck when ending up in an inaccessible area
  • [ACEO-14938] - Airport fees resets when loading a saved airport
  • [ACEO-14949] - Aircraft cannot abort de-icing activity if temperature rises above zero while approaching a de-icing pad
  • [ACEO-14951] - Passengers can in rare instances get stuck in shop while waiting to pay
  • [ACEO-14953] - Construction costs doesn't match description on some objects
  • [ACEO-14954] - Loans can be paid off with insufficient funds
  • [ACEO-14998] - Flight planner breaks down when planning flights
  • [ACEO-15000] - Shader culling causes marking lines on flipped texture such as runway entrance and exits to disappear
  • [ACEO-15012] - Stairs do not fill out entire allocated model area
  • [ACEO-15036] - Incorrect texture property setting causes console spam
  • [ACEO-15040] - Baggage can get unloaded underneath conveyor belt on baggage bay
  • [ACEO-15134] - Missing validation for aircraft occupying a de-icing pad can cause de-icing in general to stall
  • [ACEO-15173] - Default information desk shift too short and can in some airport layouts cause a pile-uo of staff at desk
  • [ACEO-15174] - Failed deliveries are not recognized correctly by the system causing a "delivery block loop" stalling construction material shipments
  • [ACEO-15177] - Passenger service agent enum not updated an still reflects old variable name 'airport staff'
  • [ACEO-15192] - Missing reset methods for new turnaround structures can cause turnaround procedures to stall if initially failed by vehicle
  • [ACEO-15196] - Floating income and expense markers stay on screen when game is paused
  • [ACEO-15204] - Vehicle depot containers displays maintenance warning label for all vehicles
  • [ACEO-15206] - Employee can be located even if it hasn't spawned causing panel to get stuck at edge of map
  • [ACEO-15260] - Statistic labels in main and dashboard panel updates their respective values at different times
  • [ACEO-15265] - De-icing process can get stuck in a loop when reloading game
  • [ACEO-15272] - Vehicle workforce statistics containers do not spawn correctly when viewing the vehicle job task panel
  • [ACEO-15305] - Wrong localized string in staffing selector on desks
  • [ACEO-15335] - Pathfinding error causing agents to get stuck after a few minutes of gameplay
  • [ACEO-15337] - Shop tutorial does not move forward
  • [ACEO-15364] - Exception can be thrown in new contractor pathfinding causing them to get stuck
  • [ACEO-15379] - People freeze due to an exception in path caching system
  • [ACEO-15385] - Object rotation doesn't work properly
  • [ACEO-15424] - Escalators and stairs are not prioritized by contractors
  • [ACEO-15465] - Staff salaries not showing correct name in budget panel
  • [ACEO-15477] - Exception in contractor pathfinding can in rare cases cause them to get stuck
  • [ACEO-15486] - Wrong text in description in runway panel
  • [ACEO-15513] - Render buffer warning thrown when loading save in game
  • [ACEO-15583] - Vehicles displaced too far from a road node gets stuck
  • [ACEO-15927] - Minor spelling mistake in third tutorial section
  • [ACEO-16101] - De-icing trucks not colorable
  • [ACEO-16312] - Aircraft cabin cleaning fee slider value reloads when closing fees panel
  • [ACEO-16345] - AM/PM time doesn't work in flight process monitor
  • [ACEO-16354] - Baggage claim areas with no conveyor belt turn built cannot function
  • [ACEO-16370] - Incorrect enabling of stand assign dropdown has let users assign incompatible service vehicles to stands causing various disruptions
  • [ACEO-16373] - Baggage overlaps scanner when passing through
  • [ACEO-16376] - Missing key for airport staff in job task panel statistics containers
  • [ACEO-16382] - Taxiway node sign overlaps vehicles
  • [ACEO-16383] - Vehicle UI container sprites not displaying correctly when vehicles are underground
  • [ACEO-16384] - Locate button does not switch floors automatically if agent is present on different floor than camera
  • [ACEO-16387] - Boarding procedure initiated despite aircraft cabin cleaning not completed
  • [ACEO-16388] - Aircraft cabin cleaning truck rotation not correctly set when loading
  • [ACEO-16392] - Service vehicles can in rare instances not reset their current parking structure after a job has been completed causing idling behavior in an incorrect spot
  • [ACEO-16393] - Template tool does not copy rooms
  • [ACEO-16394] - Pushback trucks, upon job task completion, disregard roads in an erratic manner
  • [ACEO-16403] - Saved template category panel in build menu not visible
  • [ACEO-16404] - Template tool now generates automatic description images
  • [ACEO-16428] - Baggagge overlaps generic scanner when passing through
  • [ACEO-16438] - Procurement search bar does not exclude other key input
  • [ACEO-16442] - De-icing trucks can in rare instances get stuck after aircraft de-icing completion and empty their tank
  • [ACEO-16443] - Missing text in template tool button hover to highlight that alt left button is needed to be clicked in order to copy full rooms
  • [ACEO-16465] - Job task panel statistic containers do not update "Fetching data..." text when loading panel for first time with time paused
  • [ACEO-16484] - Fuel truck with middle placed warning light is off center
  • [ACEO-16485] - Conveyor belts can in rare instances get assigned wrong variation index causing escalators to be spawned as straight pieces and consequent null reference issues
  • [ACEO-16498] - NullReference exception thrown when constructing de-icing pads with construction simulation disabled
  • [ACEO-16506] - Poor occupation check for parking objects can cause vehicles to exit a certain parking object to stall
  • [ACEO-16508] - Incorrect aircraft presence check for service vehicles when interacting with stands can throw null reference exceptions and cause stalling behavior
  • [ACEO-16520] - Aircraft with two possible departure runways but only one properly reachable via one-way taxiways cannot perform multiple attempts
  • [ACEO-16540] - "Cabin cleaning required before boarding can start" notification not removable
  • [ACEO-16543] - Double click to load save not implemented on main menu load panel

New Feature

Epic

  • [ACEO-4808] - Turnaround service: Catering
  • [ACEO-4809] - Turnaround service: Aircraft cabin cleaning

    Here is the total history of Alpha 32 from first experimental deployment to first default.

  • [ACEO-4810] - Turnaround service: De-icing
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Epic!

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